Terence McKenna and John Searle

At 1:08:35 on the dark side of psychedelics:

1:12:38 psychedelics are "proto-religious". So understand the extent to which the various religions are veridical, we need to be very careful about how we construct objective ontologies. 22:17:

On epistemologically objective theories of ontologically subjective states at 28:08: what ties these presentations and representations together is logic. For example, when Searle states the ontologically objective existence of mountains, molecules and mammoths, there is an implicit theory of geology, chemistry and paleontology which gives us the denotations of the words mountains, molecules and mammoths. And the necessary feature of the logic which gives those words meaning is that it is formally consistent. See Logic.

At 33:33 I had not heard this when I made this recording yesterday. (And note the irony that the sound/visual representation slips by about 1 second by the end of the eleven minutes!)

And on intentionality of desires, like wanting to marry a republican, my girlfriend just posted this:


But I hadn't seen this, and Searle doesn't have much to say about inter-subjectivity 54:32 but he shows at 1:00:00 that he understands Rothko's abstract stuff better than anyone else I've heard try to talk about it.

McKenna at 1:17:32 on language and visual experience. Compare that with Searle at 43:41 on blind-sight and the immediacy of visual experience. The idea that seems to be nascent here is that there is a connection between light and language that we have only the vaguest of ideas about. Jeremy Narby's articulation here 25:14 is the most lucid one I have heard:


I had some thoughts related to this in October 2015. You will have to find E.M. if you want to know what they were. See The Jaguar Circuit. This is the only record I have:



See also this essay of mine from 2010: Relational Semantics subtitled "The Evils of Lego" which concerns the consequences of consciousness being a condition of any empirical scientific observation.


For some more thoughts about collective consciousness, see Nancy Trivellato on Disembodied Consciousness.








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